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Post  smatchiemo on Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:57 am

Holy shit, y'all.

Thoughts on the teaser? Baby Peter and suicidal thoughts?
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Post  Larissa on Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:34 pm

ASDFGHJKL;;LKJHHJGHDA

There were tears at the epicness. I mean. HOLY FUCK.

I've wanted suicidal!Peter (because in my mind, he thinks about killing himself on a daily basis because he's curious about whether the entire war would end if he died and it restored the balance) but Suicidal!Kid!Peter!?! HNNNNNNGGGGG <3

But what if he's not trying to kill himself? What if he just thinks that drowning in the frozen lake will take him home just like it brought him here? He might see it as a doorway.
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Post  Danielle on Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:43 pm

Either way, a sick little boy has managed to get something heavy enough, get a rope to tie around himself and it, and get out of the house with no one seeing. Walter and Elizabeth completely broke him. He should be fucked up like hell right now, going by the promos.
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Post  Larissa on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:24 pm

This promo (combined with the new White Collar sneak peeks) has made what was actually a shitty day, AWESOME.
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Post  Danielle on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:27 pm

I don't watch the WC promos/sneak peeks. WERE THEY AWESOME?
Days aren't allowed to be shitty to you. If you have had a shitty day then one day has broken the law and we shall never have this day again.
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Post  Larissa on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:30 pm

THEY WERE AWESOME. You know how Neal & Peter's scenes are always cute and jokey? MUCH OF THIS.
I'd nearly finished the conporn thing in photoshop and my laptop shut down ;_____; Now I have to start it again Sad
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Post  smatchiemo on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:51 pm

Larissa wrote:ASDFGHJKL;;LKJHHJGHDA

There were tears at the epicness. I mean. HOLY FUCK.

I've wanted suicidal!Peter (because in my mind, he thinks about killing himself on a daily basis because he's curious about whether the entire war would end if he died and it restored the balance) but Suicidal!Kid!Peter!?! HNNNNNNGGGGG <3

But what if he's not trying to kill himself? What if he just thinks that drowning in the frozen lake will take him home just like it brought him here? He might see it as a doorway.

Yeah, that was my thought as well. He was what, 7? Adorable.

I'd really like to explore how Walter turned into a monster and Peter ended up resenting him, which I hope they do in this episode.

I hope there are one, if not at least two, car batteries involved.
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Post  Larissa on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:57 pm

I'd really like to explore how Walter turned into a monster and Peter ended up resenting him, which I hope they do in this episode.
Ooooh! YES! Something happened that made Peter that bitter and hateful, we need to see it.
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Post  Danielle on Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:03 pm

Larissa wrote:THEY WERE AWESOME. You know how Neal & Peter's scenes are always cute and jokey? MUCH OF THIS.
I'd nearly finished the conporn thing in photoshop and my laptop shut down ;_____; Now I have to start it again Sad
AWWWW! I DID NOT THINK OF PETER BURKE. BUT HNNNG. I CAN'T WAIT. WHY WASN'T IT ON LAST WEEK? I MISSED JAMES BONDS ;_;

>: ( Why is your computer being blasphemous? WHY DIDN'T IT SAVE? ;_;


smatchiemo wrote: I'd really like to explore how Walter turned into a monster and Peter ended up resenting him, which I hope they do in this episode.

I hope there are one, if not at least two, car batteries involved.
Yeah, Walter went from wanting to do anything to save his son to experimenting on him. I wanna know when he changed and why. Maybe Peter subconsciously resents Walter cause deep down he knows what he did, he just can't recall it.
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Post  Larissa on Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:04 pm

Danielle wrote:AWWWW! I DID NOT THINK OF PETER BURKE. BUT HNNNG. I CAN'T WAIT. WHY WASN'T IT ON LAST WEEK? I MISSED JAMES BONDS ;_;

>: ( Why is your computer being blasphemous? WHY DIDN'T IT SAVE? ;_;
I'm not sure, I know there was some kind of dog show on in it's place though O_O
THAT'S THE THING! I HAVE NO IDEA WHY IT DIDN'T SAVE! ;___; ALL OF MY TEXTURES THAT I LOADED INTO PHOTOSHOP YESTERDAY HAVE GONE, TOO :'(


smatchiemo wrote: I'd really like to explore how Walter turned into a monster and Peter ended up resenting him, which I hope they do in this episode.

I hope there are one, if not at least two, car batteries involved.
Yeah, Walter went from wanting to do anything to save his son to experimenting on him. I wanna know when he changed and why. Maybe Peter subconsciously resents Walter cause deep down he knows what he did, he just can't recall it.[/quote]

Maybe Peter's hate for him had something to do with his mum? We know how much Peter loved her, I bet he was really protective. He's detest Walter for abandoning them, hurting his mum and being the reason she was depressed and killed herself.
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Post  monnie44 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:49 pm

Thoughts on the teaser? Baby Peter and suicidal thoughts?

OH MY GOD. I ONLY JUST SAW IT NOW.

Yeah, that was my thought as well. He was what, 7? Adorable.
ADORABLE? ARE YOU GIRLS INSANE? I think it is extremely worrying that he, at age SEVEN, was contemplating suicide. Did the boy get put into extreme therapy after this? No? Then WHY IS HE NOT BEING MONITERED NOW? Because if he's thought something up like this at age 7, there is no doubt in my mind it rides out as a possibility for adult Peter too. He clearly does not cope with things in a healthy way, and if I were Walter I would be extremely worried about him.

I'd really like to explore how Walter turned into a monster and Peter ended up resenting him, which I hope they do in this episode.
Yes please! This is what I want to see! I mean, if this trauma wasn't enough, what could Walter possibly have done next?

Maybe Peter subconsciously resents Walter cause deep down he knows what he did, he just can't recall it.
Certainly a possibility.

Omg. That preview was so incredibly disturbing. Sad Oh, darling Peter. Please let this be getting brought up because they are about to show some more of his current emotional repercussions. Cus, I mean, if this was how he responded LAST time ... Crying or Very sad
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Post  Larissa on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:00 am

Maybe if his repressed memories come back, his state of mind from that time resurfaces too? I know it's really thin and doubtful, but if we saw adult!Peter go back to the lake and do the exact same thing because he's confused as hell and he remembers doing it as a kid, I might jizz everywhere.
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Post  monnie44 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:10 am

Larissa wrote:Maybe if his repressed memories come back, his state of mind from that time resurfaces too? I know it's really thin and doubtful, but if we saw adult!Peter go back to the lake and do the exact same thing because he's confused as hell and he remembers doing it as a kid, I might jizz everywhere.

Spoiler:
There's a small, SMALL chance something like this could be going on. I remember a while back some filming set photos being posted and one had an outdoor scene with little Peter and little Olivia with what, suspiciously, was a POSSBILE JJ-looking figure standing off to the side in a peacoat who you can't really 100% identify due to the lighting. It's unclear.

However, otherwise, how are they going to do this flashback? Just jump straight into it without any placing of it into our timeline? And if they did that, then how does that even work? All the things we'd learn from the episode would have no place in any characters mind except for Walter's - it wouldn't lead to any real-time drama at all. It would almost seem pointless. IDK. Surely they are going to set up the flashback with an initial present-day scene somehow?

GIVE ME SOME HURT PETER/TANK PETER/MEMORIES RESURFACING WHILE HAVING ANOTHER FUCKING SEIZURE PETER.
DAMMIT.

Edit: Hey, good idea now that I found out we have a spoiler tag - we should keep all future spoilers under tags unless in spoiler thread, yes? Sometimes I have a half mind to want to avoid them because I keep ruining the episodes for myself in advance over the past few weeks, so let's give people the option. Smile
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Post  Larissa on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:25 am

monnie44 wrote:However, otherwise, how are they going to do this flashback? Just jump straight into it without any placing of it into our timeline?
I was wondering this, too. With "Peter", at least we had the glimmering at the end of Jacksonville to lead into it, with this one I have no idea what they'll do. As much as I'd love for Peter to want his answers from Walter, it'd be odd if he just asked him one morning for no reason.

GIVE ME SOME HURT PETER/TANK PETER/MEMORIES RESURFACING WHILE HAVING ANOTHER FUCKING SEIZURE PETER.
DAMMIT.
PREACH.

Edit: Hey, good idea now that I found out we have a spoiler tag - we should keep all future spoilers under tags unless in spoiler thread, yes? Sometimes I have a half mind to want to avoid them because I keep ruining the episodes for myself in advance over the past few weeks, so let's give people the option. Smile
Awww, yeah. I always feel bad for spoiler-free people, I can't keep my mouth shut :')
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Post  Danielle on Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:08 am

How'd you even find that? I had no idea we could do that xD

But yeah, I'm hoping Peter finally lets Walter talk about it, or that he suddenly gets really ill and starts flashing back, or thinks "fuck, I've fucked Olivia, now I'm stuck with her," so goes to kill himself and as he does his memories start coming back...
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Post  Larissa on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:42 pm

YES! He could just wake up feeling violently ill and it triggers some memories to come back so he asks Walter to clear them up *_*

What counts as spoilers and what counts as speculation/theories? Most of our theories are based on information we have about future episodes xD
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Post  Danielle on Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:01 pm

It'd be funny because in my own mind it'd be Olivia which made Peter ill ^-^
But I'd like for Walter to finally tell Peter what happened.

I have no idea :/ D:
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Post  monnie44 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:45 pm

I was wondering this, too. With "Peter", at least we had the glimmering at the end of Jacksonville to lead into it, with this one I have no idea what they'll do. As much as I'd love for Peter to want his answers from Walter, it'd be odd if he just asked him one morning for no reason.

Hey ... anyone else notice we always get glimmering Peter right before a flaskback? Hee!

How'd you even find that? I had no idea we could do that xD
It's in that "others" tab.

or thinks "fuck, I've fucked Olivia, now I'm stuck with her," so goes to kill himself and as he does his memories start coming back...
I love you.

or that he suddenly gets really ill and starts flashing back,
THIS IS MY PREFERRED OPTION. HELL YEAH.

YES! He could just wake up feeling violently ill and it triggers some memories to come back so he asks Walter to clear them up *_*
WHILE HE'S SHAKING AND SWEATING AND DIZZY AND TUCKED UP IN BED?

What counts as spoilers and what counts as speculation/theories? Most of our theories are based on information we have about future episodes xD
LOL I DON'T KNOW. I'M TRYING TO NOT SEE ANYMORE OF THE PREVIEWS OF SNEAK PEEKS OR READ ANY CAST INTERVIEWS ABOUT WHAT IS COMING UP IN THIS WEEKS EPISODE STARTING FROM NOW. SO I'LL JUST TRY AND AVOID READING THAT STUFF. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD BECAUSE I AM A SPOILER JUNKIE BUT I'M GOING TO TRY AND GIVE IT UP FOR A WEEK. I FEEL LIKE I NEED NICOTINE PATCHES OR SOMETHING.
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Post  Danielle on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:26 pm

monnie44 wrote:

Hey ... anyone else notice we always get glimmering Peter right before a flaskback? Hee!
Ooooh, I do now! Do you think it was intentional?


It's in that "others" tab.
Spoiler:
Found it!


I love you.
I also love you.


THIS IS MY PREFERRED OPTION. HELL YEAH.
CAN HE SWEAT AND BE PALE?


WHILE HE'S SHAKING AND SWEATING AND DIZZY AND TUCKED UP IN BED?
AND HE HAS A THERMOMETER AND HE DOES THAT THING WHERE HE'S REALLY PALE BUT ARUOND HIS EYES IS RED. <3
I JUST REALIZED I'VE DEVOTED 2 YEARS OF MY LIFE TO KNOWING EVERYTHING ABOUT JOSHUA JACKSON. IT JUST SUNK IN.
I AIN'T EVEN MAD.


LOL I DON'T KNOW. I'M TRYING TO NOT SEE ANYMORE OF THE PREVIEWS OF SNEAK PEEKS OR READ ANY CAST INTERVIEWS ABOUT WHAT IS COMING UP IN THIS WEEKS EPISODE STARTING FROM NOW. SO I'LL JUST TRY AND AVOID READING THAT STUFF. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD BECAUSE I AM A SPOILER JUNKIE BUT I'M GOING TO TRY AND GIVE IT UP FOR A WEEK. I FEEL LIKE I NEED NICOTINE PATCHES OR SOMETHING.
OKAY. I SHALL MENTION NOTHING ABOUT THE NEW CITY TV PROMO. NOTHING. EXCEPT FOR IN SPOILER TAGS. ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING NEW IN IT ABOUT PETER ANYWAY.
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Post  monnie44 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:54 pm

Ooooh, I do now! Do you think it was intentional?
He's only glimmered twice so far, right? And each time the following episode has been a flashback. Idk, it could be a conicidence it's just a little too conincidental. Probably doesn't mean anything, though.

CAN HE SWEAT AND BE PALE?
Yes! And maybe he's too weak to get out of bed? OR OR OR he's in the lab and he collapses on the floor and he's sorta half conscious and Walter's holding up his head trying to get him to respond to them, because his eyes are open but all glazed, but Peter's just totally limp and pale and sweaty and out of it and sorta staring around the room and he's having a series of these weird flashes. And then they sorta begin to turn into snippets of scenes and we can hear audio over the scene and then they begin to extend and we white out into a proper flashback. And the end of the flashback/end of the episode is people going "Peter ... Peter ..." and he sorta whites out of the flashback scene and he blinks a couple times and Walter's all "are you with us?" and he's lying on a stretcher or a hospital bed and he's all slurring "................ I had the weirdest dream .......I don't feel well .............." AND I DIE OUT OF LOVE AND PETER WHUMP.
THERE. EPISODE WRITTEN.
EXCEPT IT CAN'T WORK BECAUSE PETER ISN'T IN THE WALTER/ELIZABETH SCENES BUT I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. THIS WOULD BE BETTER.


I JUST REALIZED I'VE DEVOTED 2 YEARS OF MY LIFE TO KNOWING EVERYTHING ABOUT JOSHUA JACKSON. IT JUST SUNK IN.
I AIN'T EVEN MAD.
HEE.

OKAY. I SHALL MENTION NOTHING ABOUT THE NEW CITY TV PROMO. NOTHING. EXCEPT FOR IN SPOILER TAGS. ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING NEW IN IT ABOUT PETER ANYWAY.
I WAS TOO SCARED TO WATCH THAT ONE. OMG. Sad THIS EPISODE BETTER BE WORTH THIS MAMMOTH EFFORT TO STAY AWAY FROM SPOILERS.
THANKS THOUGH IT WILL BE GREAT. OR AT LEAST A "HEY MONNIE TURN AWAY" HEADS UP WITH BE APPRECIATED. xD I'll let you know if I break and WATCH THEM ALLLLL.
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Post  Larissa on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:01 pm

HNNNNNNNG <3 It's when these conversations about sweaty, ill Peter occur that I enjoy this forum most :')

[spoiler]MWAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Consider the evil laugh a spoiler of all of the horrid things I will eventually do someday. /spoiler]
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Post  monnie44 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:34 pm

Larissa wrote:HNNNNNNNG <3 It's when these conversations about sweaty, ill Peter occur that I enjoy this forum most :')

[spoiler]MWAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Consider the evil laugh a spoiler of all of the horrid things I will eventually do someday. /spoiler]

Lol, that would have worked better if you'd got the tag quite right. Wink

I consider myself spoiled on that one already, though. Don't you worry.
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Post  Larissa on Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:12 am

Trust me, I just LOL'ed really hard when I scrolled down and saw that the tag hadn't worked :')

Spoiler:
In other news, little!Peter knows he was kidnapped from 'another world'...how? Would that really be the first conclusion he comes to? I think Walter messed with more than just his memories, in 1x04 Peter finds the idea of alternate universes laughable, maybe Walter messed with how open-minded Peter is to things? He said to him at some point in season 1 'open your mind or someone might do it for you', what if he had a fear that if Peter opened his mind, he'd remember his childhood and he'd figure it all out? Just some random thoughts :')

I don't know if that's a spoiler, it's speculation based on a promo for Friday's episode xD xD
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Post  Danielle on Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:37 am

HNNNG. I WANT HIM TO BE ALL ILL AND FEVERISH AND LOVELY.

Also, Larissa, that lack of a spoiler tag made me pmsl xD

Spoiler:
But the spoiler thing - yeah, I think Walter's definitely messed with Peter badly. He'd be terrified Peter found out so he (accidentally typed that like He. Walter's God now, apparently.) would do everything he could to stop Peter remembering.
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Post  Larissa on Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:41 pm

You'd be lost without me and my stupid slip-ups xD

Spoiler:
How much do you bet Walter tested a lot of drugs on Peter? I doubt his first thought was electrocution and we all know Walter's fond of drugs O_O
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